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This is “From a Altered Point of View,” a affection area I altercate a banana book alternation with addition writer. In this case, it is CBR’s own Eileen Gonzalez who will be activity over the history of the Avengers with me, adventure by story!

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We abide with Avengers #52, “Death Calls for the Arch-Heroes,” by Roy Thomas, John Buscema and Vince Colletta.

Brian Cronin: I don’t admit the title. Is that referencing something?

Brian Cronin: The appellation “arch-heroes” stands out.

Eileen Gonzalez: That is weird. I’ve alone heard “arch-enemies.” Maybe it’s addition abstruse appellation Thomas dug up?

Brian Cronin: Aha, it is a advertence to a Willa Cather novel.

Brian Cronin: Death Calls for the Archbishop, from 1927.

Eileen Gonzalez: Absolutely wouldn’t accept estimated that.

Brian Cronin: So it’s aloof a bit of a weird, affected pun.

Eileen Gonzalez: I accept Thomas aloof did that to charm himself, not because he anticipation the kids account these would get the joke.

Eileen Gonzalez: I absolutely don’t like this cover, or Austere Reaper’s outfit.

Eileen Gonzalez: The slashing through the appellation is neat, but the blow feels bisected finished.

Brian Cronin: It’s about like that the abstraction of slashing the awning was such a adventurous concept

Brian Cronin: That they figured, “Okay, that’s enough, we can aloof stop here.”

Eileen Gonzalez: I cannot booty the Austere Reaper actively in that costume. Waaay too abounding colors there, buddy.

Brian Cronin: Not aloof too abounding colors.

Brian Cronin: But too abounding CLASHING colors.

Brian Cronin: It’s absolutely a awfully atramentous outfit.

Eileen Gonzalez: Abnormally aback his name is “Grim” Reaper. There is annihilation austere about this–it’s aloof ugly.

Brian Cronin: That’s the absorbing thing, though, as I don’t alike apperceive how abundant ascendancy John Buscema had, if any, in the actualization of the Austere Reaper at this time.

Brian Cronin: Basically, whoever was accomplishing Marvel’s actualization at the time (I anticipate Stan Goldberg was no best in allegation of actualization by this point. Marie Severin ability accept been it, but she was starting to do pencils, as well, so I absolutely don’t apperceive for sure) would aloof blush things as they saw fit.

Eileen Gonzalez: That charge be adamantine as the penciller, if you accept a assertive eyes of how things should attending and afresh the colorist comes in with their own ideas.

Brian Cronin: Abnormally in a case like here, aback it was, you know, bonkers.

Eileen Gonzalez: I would be flipping tables if addition did that to my art.

Brian Cronin: Of course, I don’t apperceive for a actuality that this WASN’T what Buscema wanted

Brian Cronin: But, again, I am appealing abiding we’re still in a aeon area the pencilers were at the benevolence of the colorists in how the characters absolutely got colored.

Brian Cronin: However, it is account acquainted that the colorists were, in turn, at the benevolence of the editor.

Brian Cronin: If Stan Lee didn’t like how a actualization would look, he could (and would) acquaint them to change it.

Brian Cronin: So I assumption the actuality ultimately amenable for the Austere Reaper accepting this out there blush arrangement is Lee.

Eileen Gonzalez: Gee, thanks, Stan.

Eileen Gonzalez: At atomic Atramentous Panther–or aloof “Panther” as he’s alleged here–has a nice connected costume.

Brian Cronin: Alike there, we accept the absorbing accord area the Panther’s accouterments is now different, as his affectation is no best a abounding face mask.

Brian Cronin: That was how Jack Kirby originally capital the apparel to be drawn, with a cowl like Batman’s.

Brian Cronin: But afresh it became a abounding face mask, LIKELY (but not 100% definitely) because they anticipation it fabricated added faculty to not accomplish it accessible that Panther was an absolute atramentous person.

Brian Cronin: And yet here, it’s aback to a Batman-like cowl.

Eileen Gonzalez: I do like the abounding face affectation better, if alone because it’s added audible than abounding added superhero costumes. He is attractive actual Batman-y here.

Brian Cronin: As we’ll eventually see in a approaching story, the open-face aspect of this affectation was actual possibly a actualization mistake.

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Brian Cronin: As there is a afterwards adventure that accurately plays aloft the actuality that no one knows T’Challa is atramentous beneath the mask.

Eileen Gonzalez: I anticipate I bethink that one. Either that, or this came up added than once.

Eileen Gonzalez: Either way, Panther is not accepting the best time in his aboriginal abounding affair as an Avenger, is he? He notices no one is home, so his aboriginal aptitude is to apprehension in through the skylight?

Brian Cronin: It’s odd that Captain America gave him an alternating way of entering the Mansion. Instead of aloof accepting him go to the advanced door.

Brian Cronin: Also, as you note, we acutely get the aboriginal archetype of Marvel reacting to the bulge of the Atramentous Panther Party during 1967.

Brian Cronin: By Atramentous Panther now actuality referred to as Panther in the Avengers.

Eileen Gonzalez: It’s funny they handled it that way, accustomed a afterwards affair has T’Challa (now “Black Panther” again) accord a little accent about how he doesn’t accord a fig about American politics, his name is what it is.

Eileen Gonzalez: On addition level, I assumption it makes faculty for him to be aloof “Panther,” aback the “black” is a little redundant.

Brian Cronin: Yeah.

Brian Cronin: It could candidly aloof be a alternative by Thomas rather than an absolute acknowledgment to anything.

Brian Cronin: It’s still alluring to see him go anon from the pages of Tales of Suspense, area he was both Atramentous Panther and fatigued with a abounding face affectation (in belief done by his creator, Jack Kirby) to abutting the Avengers as the Panther afterwards the face mask.

Brian Cronin: Now, we fabricated fun of the abstraction of the Panther blame the affair off by aloof array of breaking into Avengers Mansion, but it did the job it was advised to do, which was to actualization off the Panther’s abilities in some accomplished activity sequences by Buscema and Colletta.

Eileen Gonzalez: Ah, the absolute acumen he bankrupt in! He capital to actualization off for the readers.

Eileen Gonzalez: And he does impress, I charge say.

Brian Cronin: Aback it comes to Vince Colletta’s inks, the affair about consistently is, “Does he accumulate the aboriginal penciler’s actualization intact?”

Brian Cronin: And I anticipate he does a absolutely nice job actuality inking Buscema.

Brian Cronin: This all screams out BUSCEMA, art-wise, which agency that Colletta didn’t get in the way.

Brian Cronin: Years later, we’ll see the added ancillary of Colletta with some of George Perez’s aboriginal issues

Brian Cronin: That abiding don’t attending like they were fatigued by George Perez.

Eileen Gonzalez: I’m consistently low-level anxious aback I see Vince Colletta’s name in the credits for absolutely the acumen you stated. But he does do a acceptable job in this issue.

Eileen Gonzalez: Hey, here’s a fun bubbler game: every time Panther mentions he’s from the jungle, booty a shot.

Brian Cronin: “What in the name of the around-the-clock jungle!”

Brian Cronin: Is not abundant of a catchphrase

Brian Cronin: It beats Hercules’ zither line, but not by much!

Eileen Gonzalez: I still adopt “by the alert zither of Zeus!” At atomic it has adumbration activity for it!

Brian Cronin: That’s fair.

Brian Cronin: The basal accoutrement of the affair is affectionate of intriguing, that the Panther shows up to acquisition the Avengers dead.

Brian Cronin: And we get an actualization from SHIELD Agent Jasper Sitwell, who seemed to acclimated to be a adequately above character.

Brian Cronin: For a time there, he was one of the SHIELD agents you’d best acceptable see a adornment from.

Brian Cronin: I anticipate Gyrich afterwards takes over his role as the go-to government flunky.

Eileen Gonzalez: I bethink him assuming up in Iron Man a lot aback in the day.

Eileen Gonzalez: And Iron Man gives HIM a key to the mansion.

Eileen Gonzalez: No breaking through the skylight for Sitwell.

Brian Cronin: Yeah, he was a big Iron Man actualization about this time.

Eileen Gonzalez: It’s apparently arbitrary of me, but I could never booty Sitwell too seriously. He looks so abundant like Jimmy Olsen, abiding goofball, that it’s distracting.

Brian Cronin: That’s absolutely aching him over the years, no agnosticism about it.

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Brian Cronin: And afresh the MCU fabricated Coulson the go-to for the hardly banal SHIELD guy

Brian Cronin: For the Marvel Universe, as well.

Brian Cronin: Not to acknowledgment the actuality of Nick Fury Jr., which makes it so that there are so abounding added go-to SHIELD agents.

Eileen Gonzalez: Sitwell’s balmy fanboying as the badge arrest the Panther (the bit about absent to accommodated his “long-time idols,” the Avengers) is actual Coulson-like in retrospect. I can see area their personalities overlap.

Brian Cronin: Natasha’s actualization abiding has regressed, huh?

Brian Cronin: This is the adult who threatened to annihilate an conflicting to save the Avengers.

Brian Cronin: Who blanket a alike and flew it into China, announcement abroad at dudes.

Brian Cronin: But she finds out her admirer has been murdered and she aloof break bottomward and blubbers into Sitwell’s arms?

Eileen Gonzalez: Ew, yeah. Why did they alike accompany her aback if this was all she was activity to do?

Brian Cronin: Disappointing.

Eileen Gonzalez: And her chat is gross too. Actuality agitated over your admired one’s annihilation is “being a woman?” Okay.

Brian Cronin: Ay-yep. It’s not good.

Brian Cronin: As the account spreads about the Avengers credible deaths, we get the archetypal Thomas “Work the characters I’m not accustomed to use in the Avengers into an affair of Avengers,” as we get reactions from the Big Three.

Eileen Gonzalez: I would accept adopted abrogation them out of this entirely, to be honest. Now we apperceive for a actuality they’ve heard the account and sat about accomplishing annihilation about it.

Eileen Gonzalez: Abnormally Cap! You can vouch for Panther, so go do it! At atomic accomplish a buzz call!

Brian Cronin: Hey, Tony has a analysis apprentice to assignment on!

Eileen Gonzalez: That charge be one heck of a robot.

Brian Cronin: The Austere Reaper has the best able flashbacks accepted to man

Brian Cronin: As his memories somehow accommodate the thoughts of his opponents

Eileen Gonzalez: Maybe he has clear-sighted powers. It would explain how he knows so abundant about his brother’s exploits as Wonder Man acceptance the actuality that he wasn’t there.

Eileen Gonzalez: Did Simon address him a letter afore he died or something?

Brian Cronin: Maybe it was accessible record?

Brian Cronin: But yeah, weird.

Brian Cronin: Here, though, we see Thomas’ absorbing use of chain in action

Brian Cronin: As he ties in this new villain to one of the added archetypal issues of the Avengers at this point in time.

Brian Cronin: Wonder Man’s debut/death was absolutely an aboriginal highlight for the series

Brian Cronin: And it was already stripmined for Power Man, so now Thomas goes aback for more.

Brian Cronin: Reaper’s advance on the Avengers is fatigued absolutely able-bodied by Buscema. Those are some outstanding activity scenes. This is a big affair for Buscema with commendations to action.

Eileen Gonzalez: Agreed, this is some abundant art. And I am animated we’re befitting Wonder Man’s anamnesis animate with absorbing new concepts like his antagonistic brother, alike if his apparel could use some workshopping.

Eileen Gonzalez: Alike that console of Panther leaping out the window is neat.

Brian Cronin: Yeah.

Brian Cronin: The acumen of that accomplished accord are weird, though.

Brian Cronin: T’Challa uses his cachet as Chief of Wakanda aback arrested, but aback he gets to the station, no one knows what Wakanda is, which T’Challa knows, soo…huh?

Eileen Gonzalez: It is odd that he’d say “hey, I’m a prince!” like that. Maybe he was aloof aggravating to buy time and ample claiming he’s ability would abash them continued abundant for him to anticipate things out?

Brian Cronin: He should accept aloof approved to affirmation that the accomplished affair was an announcement gimmick.

Brian Cronin: That, they’d accept for sure.

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Eileen Gonzalez: Maybe. That cop seemed like a “shoot first, ask questions never” type, though.

Brian Cronin: True.

Brian Cronin: The “warning shots” were appealing abuse close!

Eileen Gonzalez: Maybe they absolutely were cutting to annihilate but didn’t appetite to abash themselves by acceptance they missed.

Brian Cronin: Sounds about right.

Brian Cronin: Panther’s action with Austere Reaper was handled absolutely well.

Brian Cronin: I abnormally like the bit area his accept gets blasted.

Brian Cronin: Absolutely added some dust to the battle.

Eileen Gonzalez: And that final console with their caliginosity on the bank and Reaper’s duke in the foreground? Excellent.

Brian Cronin: So good!

Brian Cronin: And so DARK!

Brian Cronin: I mean, from a accountable amount stance

Brian Cronin: Dude aloof impaled himself!

Eileen Gonzalez: Yeah, I would not accept accepted that. Alike animate he survived… yikes.

Brian Cronin: Really, this was an accomplished affair for assuming off how abundant the Panther was and why he would accomplish for a acceptable new Avenger.

Brian Cronin: So Thomas and Buscema did a abundant job in that regard.

Brian Cronin: This is a big footfall up over attached up the Avengers butler and afresh cutting arrows at him to let him loose.

Eileen Gonzalez: Or captivation Captain America earnest and ambitious membership, SWORDSMAN.

Eileen Gonzalez: What are Hawkeye’s arrows fabricated of that they can splinter a pistol like that? Uru metal?

Brian Cronin: Right?

Brian Cronin: And the dude aloof woke up from, in effect, a coma!

Eileen Gonzalez: Is there a absolute acumen the Austere Reaper didn’t aloof annihilation them all absolute rather than leave them alive? Or was it aloof artifice reasons?

Brian Cronin: To allurement the added Avengers in, I guess?

Brian Cronin: He apparently additionally capital the adventitious to get in some nice villain speechifying afore he dead them.

Eileen Gonzalez: Ah, true. Why address at your dying foes already aback you can do it twice?

Brian Cronin: The accomplished affair afresh caps off with them NOW absent to acquisition Wanda and Pietro.

Brian Cronin: That’s affectionate of a awe-inspiring how do you do.

Eileen Gonzalez: Took them continued abundant to go afterwards them!

Brian Cronin: “Good, we’re assuredly accomplished afresh by abacus you! But now we accept to go acquisition these added two earlier members.”

Eileen Gonzalez: Presumably Panther heals absolutely fast so his arm won’t be any trouble.

Eileen Gonzalez: Not abiding what the admeasurement of the power-giving herbs was at this point.

Brian Cronin: Yeah, in the ambience of the scene, that was a bit of a non-sequitor.

Brian Cronin: We are now up to our aboriginal crossover with addition comic!

Eileen Gonzalez: Yep. Time to go action the X-Men!

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CBR Senior Biographer Brian Cronin has been autograph professionally about banana books for over a dozen years now at CBR (primarily with his “Comics Should Be Good” alternation of columns, including Banana Book Legends Revealed). He has accounting two books about comics for Penguin-Random House – Was Superman a Spy? And Added Banana Book Legends Revealed and Why Does Batman Carry Shark Repellent? And Added Amazing Banana Book Trivia! and one book, 100 Things X-Men Fans Should Apperceive & Do Afore They Die, from Triumph Books. His autograph has been featured at ESPN.com, the Los Angeles Times, About.com, the Huffington Post and Gizmodo. He appearance legends about ball and sports at his website, Legends Revealed. Follow him on Twitter at @Brian_Cronin and feel chargeless to e-mail him suggestions for belief about banana books that you’d like to see featured at [email protected]!

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